A woman sits on a curb at the scene of a shooting outside of a music festival along the Las Vegas Strip, Monday, Oct. 2, 2017, in Las Vegas. Multiple victims were being transported to hospitals after a shooting late Sunday at a music festival on the Las Vegas Strip. (AP Photo/John Locher)

Terrorism, race, religion: Defining the Las Vegas shooting

(AP) — The mass shooting in Las Vegas is the deadliest in modern U.S. history, but is it terrorism?

While much will hinge on the motives of a white gunman attacking a mostly-white country music crowd, that uncomfortable question also hits at some of America's most divisive issues: race, religion and politics.

The FBI said Monday (Oct. 2) that the 64-year-old shooter, identified as U.S. citizen Stephen Paddock, had no connection to an international terrorist group. The Islamic State group earlier claimed responsibility, saying Paddock was a recent convert. But beyond the claim, which offered no proof, the shooter's motives are unclear and little was known immediately beyond his name and his choice of target.

"Just because we rush to ascribe motive when the shooter is Muslim doesn't mean we should rush to ascribe motive when the shooter is white," Shadi Hamid, a fellow at the Brookings Institute think tank and author of "Islamic Exceptionalism," wrote in a tweet Monday.

Paddock, from Mesquite, Nevada, apparently killed himself as police closed in on his hotel room. The lack of known motive so far clouds whether the shooting meets traditional definitions of terrorism. Those generally include having a political, economic, religious or social goal; and using violence to convey a message to a broader audience than just the victims.

The absence of information leaves many to fall back on a debate that has roiled the United States since even before Timothy McVeigh used a truck bomb against a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995.

McVeigh was convicted not of terrorism, but of using a weapon of mass destruction and of murder for the deaths of eight federal law enforcement officers who died in the blast, which killed a total of 168 people.

At well over 50 dead, Sunday's toll surpassed that of the June 2016 shooting at Orlando's Pulse nightclub, which killed 49 people. The Orlando shooting was carried out by Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old U.S. citizen who claimed allegiance to the Islamic State group and was killed by police. Then-President Barack Obama called it "an act of terror and an act of hate."

Within hours of the Pulse shooting, then-candidate Donald Trump send a self-congratulatory tweet "for being right on radical Islamic terrorism." On Monday, as president, Trump offered condolences to victims and their families and called the shooting "an act of pure evil."

Outside the U.S., recent attacks that have resulted in terrorism charges include the November 2015 Islamic State attacks in Paris, which killed 130, and the 2011 rampage by Norwegian mass killer Anders Breivik, a neo-Nazi who gunned down 77 people in 2011.

Ahead of Monday's shootings, Randall Law, who wrote "Terrorism: A History," said he believed there is a racial component to the United States' reluctance to clarify or prosecute with domestic terror laws.

Many Americans, he said, think only "people with foreign names ... and people with dark skin funding foreign ideologies" would commit such horrific acts.
He adds that different branches in the U.S. federal government — from Homeland Security to the FBI to the State Department — have "multiple definitions of terrorism." ''It's a truism that nobody can quite agree on how to define terrorism," he said.

Law said there are complex arguments against drawing up a comprehensive definition of domestic terrorism in law. First Amendment concerns arise in legal discussions about making domestic terrorism a crime. Many worry the federal government would criminalize speech, religion or ideology.

Regardless, Nevada law has a clear definition of terrorism: "The use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to cause great bodily harm or death to the general population."

The mayor of Las Vegas, Carolyn Goodman, made no reference to that on Monday, simply describing the shooter as "a crazed lunatic, full of hate."

Whether a crime is called terrorism has important practical implications, as Connecticut Rep. Jim Himes, whose state endured the mass killing at Sandy Hook elementary school, in 2012, pointed out.

"Now we're obsessing over whether the (Nevada) carnage was 'terrorism'," he wrote in a tweet. "If we decide it is, we'll mobilize untold resources. If not, nothing."


  1. Can people wait for the FACTS to come out before delving into speculations. Authors must start asking themselves in their zeal to comment on stories large and small, if they even have enough information to write on a topic.

  2. The Oklahoma City bomber may not have been convicted of terrorism as an offense, but the FBI certainly classified it that way. The state-level terrorism statutes came mostly after 9/11 and many were written haphazardly as an effort for politicians to be seen as “doing something.” As a result, some states include within “terrorism” such things that other states would call aggravated harassment or menacing.

  3. How are the liberals going to place this one on Trump?

  4. Why are Christian “leaders” and their minions blaming non-Christian US citizens?

  5. Your brother Pat Robertson is leading the pack of bible clutching finger pointers.

  6. Ainsley Earhardt on the ubiquitous Fox & Friends

  7. This is the stupidity that must be endured in my state.

    “You can’t regulate evil” sounds like it should be followed by some sinister abdominal laughter. Though insofar as “evil” is a real and quantifiable thing, the role of a justice system is to eradicate and minimize the effect of evil on the good population. As Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy replied to Matt Bevin, “I await your proposal to rescind Kentucky’s laws banning assault, murder and arson. One of government’s core functions is to regulate evil.”

  8. Race is a Social Construct; unless of course we are talking about Caucasians.

  9. Oh, they’ve already found a way — Trump has resisted every effort to strengthen gun laws that might (in their febrile imaginations) have prevented this tragedy…because he’s the puppet of the evil NRA, dontcha know — unless it’s the Russians, or maybe the KKK, or…

  10. ah Thank you. I knew they wouldn’t let me down……lol

  11. with all the democrat hate speech, of hate america, hate americans, hate the white, hate the president, hate trump voters. from cele-bratees, the nfl, blm, antifa, islamics, illegal aliens, public schools, these self proclaimed superior intellects can’t tell what this democrat guys motivation is or where he got it from.

    and they, can’t put two and two together that all their hate speech spells trouble for america and americans. when they, and their hate speech are all just as guilty as this guy.

  12. that is like inviting those, who are the problem for more of their hate filled help.

    democrats, are actually making republicans look civilized. when i am, not so sure about that either.

  13. well i am sure, that witches know how to subtly blame the other witches covens.

  14. Jimmie, I just find them particularly amusing right now.

  15. i, have yet to see any problem admit they are the problem.

  16. i, do not consider a very dangeous tradgity happening as particularily amusing. when they, have all lost their minds and all sense of true reasoning.

    all their, continious spewing of unjustified hate is only going to produce more tradgity.

  17. the true function of government, is to regulate and encourage good, and to define what evil and/or wickedness is. laws, only reveal to us the dividing line of good and bad behavior. but laws, do not prevent evil and wickedness that is a matter of taught false mental attitude.

  18. no amount of laws, can prevent evil and/or wickedness. since evil and wickedness is the product, of a false taught mind.

    laws only reveal to the good, where the boarder the dividing line is. they by no means, prevent the mentally decreped from crossing the line.

    a person with a good taught mental constitution will not cross the line. any person with a bad taught false constitution is more than likely to cross the line at some point.

    need to spend more time, teaching what constitutes good behavior. since if what you teach, is only about bad behavior, then this is what you get.

  19. the tragedy is far from amusing, but, democrats and their fear of Trump is humorous

  20. We are making this far too complex, from the portrait that emerges thus far, it seems quite obvious that Mr. Paddock was mentally and emotionally unbalanced, however long it took for that condition to emerge and drive him to his heinous barrage of lethality.

  21. The Nevada definition is at least objective, but ignores motivation. I’d add “for the purpose of effecting political, social, or religious change.”

    Beyond that, we the public know way too little to make a judgment call yet. Though the fact that at least some in law enforcement are assuming he had help works against the “deranged psycho lone wolf” theory.

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